searches and
actually builds a replica and package of you product then markets it to a
manufacuerer
I spent 800 bucks on a patent search and they were already to take it to the
next level
They were very excited but I had to come up with 12 grand to continue with
the process
Would not have been a bad price but I couldnt come up with the money. That
was a while ago
Best wishes,
Dan Moody
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Patrick <datafoxx@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Very sound thinking, I think. :-) I keep forgeting about trade
> shows. I should do one of them one day.
>
> Do you have anything to say, Karmen, on repurposing? Its one of my
> hobby interests and I'd love to read your insight someday.
>
> In the meantime, I'd like to borrow a friend's sign-off and say;
> Wishing you a spicy life and riches, everyone.
>
> Patrick Lalande
> www.bucketsoffood.com
>
> --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Karmen Spencer-
> Stanovich <KARMEN@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick, Yes it is great having this forum...and sharing as I
> still learn so
> > much from everyone even after being in business for a long time..
> > you are never too old to learn...:).
> >
> > When people have spent much of their time in developing a new
> product
> > all they want to do is to protect their baby.They run and spend
> > thousands of dollars with a patent attorney...
> >
> > Of course it all depends what product they want to protect...it
> has to be such
> > a unique product. If a fight should develop ..yes, an attorney
> will handle the case
> > for you, but at a high price and the billing starts ticking
> away...each month...
> >
> > The billing to prepare for a court case is astronomical...it can
> run quickly
> > from many thousands per month to 6 figures...Most people do not
> have that
> > sort of money to burn and end up backing out.
> >
> > I have seen first hand what can take place.and I have mentioned
> it here before
> > that realistically someone can alter a part of your patent and
> you do not have a
> > leg to stand on to fight the case..you can fight but that
> > doesn't mean you will win...
> >
> > It's a big win-win for the attorney of course. as they will want
> you to fight...and
> > yes you are paying for it..with little return...
> >
> > I deal with all major retail chains and I do not know of one
> personally
> > that will take your idea and pay you for it...and get it made for
> you that
> > doesn't happen...
> >
> > Major buyers are under such pressure and under the gun and have
> very little
> > time on their hands..Have you seen right now all the stores have
> major
> > sales as things are not moving...Life has changed big time in
> business
> > over the last 2 years...
> >
> > My advice is to start small build your foundation first...build
> your brand name...
> > and become a hero locally first...then venture to bigger pastures
> only after
> > you have successfully built a strong foundation and that takes
> time...
> > Everyone starting out wants to hit a home run each time they are
> up to bat....
> >
> > A buyer does not even want to waste their time if you are coming
> in with
> > one small item show them...and that is why they see
> distributors...as
> > they will come in and show them a number of products...and that
> way it is more productive,...for them..
> >
> > Perhaps trying to go and find a distributor may be a better way
> to go for
> > anyone who wants to expands their lines...
> >
> > On the Pet line...they have the big Pet Trade shows a few times
> per year and
> > you get buyers there from all over the US that come to buy...
> > Blessings, Karmen.
> > Patrick <datafoxx@...> wrote:
> > Hy Karmen,
> >
> > Its so nice to have intelligent discourse in an open forum. I
> > believe you made my point. Patents are all they're cracked up to
> > be. Getting the product out into the market first is even more
> > important. Some companies will even be willing to license a product
> > without a patent just to lock up being first to the market with it.
> I
> > never suggested that a patent be consumated, only a provisional
> > patent to provide some idea protection for a limited time (one
> > year). It gives them enough time to figure out how to market it.
> >
> > If I'm reading you right, you sound like you're in the positon to
> > analyze and advise. Although, I won't totally admit defeat and
> > concede the point, I think that all methods should be considered,
> > perhaps you have another solution that they may consider.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Patrick Lalande
> > www.bucketsoffood.com
> >
> > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Karmen Spencer-
> Stanovich
> > <KARMEN@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Patrick, you have very good suggestions, however I do not
> think
> > it will work
> > > the way you are saying it here...having been in manufacturing for
> > 20 years.....
> > > In fact I know it would not work and it can become expensive....
> > > also it depends on the product..if it is worth taking out
> > expensive patents..
> > >
> > > I have seen people dish out thousands of dollars on patents only
> > to
> > > find themselves attending a Trade Show and having almost the
> > same
> > > identical products on display..a few booth away...
> > >
> > > I have designed many products and all have been home runs..
> > > Because once the designs are done I am always thinking of the
> > next big one.
> > > Right now in Target they are selling a few products that I had
> > designed and sold to
> > > another large chain of stores last year..
> > >
> > > The company that copied my designs and sold it to Target have a
> > strong bond there...
> > > When others copy you it is a form of flattery and in fashions
> > things change all the time...
> > >
> > > All they need to do is change a certain amount in a design
> > which is easy
> > > to do for some people...I decided a long time ago that I wanted
> > my time and
> > > focus to go on positive things...and what I designed yesterday
> > > I have already moved today to the next new design......
> > >
> > > Yesterday is over and done with..Karmen
> > >
> > > Patrick <datafoxx@> wrote:
> > > I might suggest that you take a different tack. What if
> > you pt a
> > > sales letter ( a one page printed copy with your USP "Unique
> > Selling
> > > Propositon", a one line elevator pitch on it and then add 3-5
> > > features (the is) and benefits (the does) and take that to the
> > > players in that field. You'd probably have to do that face to
> face
> > > but the sales letter would get your foot in the door.
> > >
> > > If anyone is interested then they'll pay for the manufaturing and
> > > you'd just collect on the license.
> > >
> > > The only thing you'd need from a manufacturer is a price to
> > > manufacture and they'd already be able to price it...
> > >
> > > Just a quick review. License not sell. Maybe get the help of a
> > > product developer (someone other than the inventor) to market the
> > > license.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Patrick Lalande
> > > www.bucketsoffood.com
> > >
> > > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Kurt Schweitzer"
> > > <kurt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is the patent number, and in what country is it patented?
> > > >
> > > > I have worked with a patent broker who matches patent holders
> with
> > > > companies interested in licensing patents. I may be able to
> > connect
> > > > you, but I need to know the patent information first.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Schweitzer
> > > > Urban Village Scooters
> > > > http://urbanvillagescooters.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "tender2dtouch"
> > > > <tender2dtouch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been seeking to have my patented product manufactured.
> It
> > > is a
> > > > > reusable plastic storage bag with an entirely novel closure
> > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Presently, I have been making these bags on my own with a
> heat
> > > sealer,
> > > > > and they are fully functional.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since the product will be sold for a relatively low price, I
> > > cannot see
> > > > > the feasibility of continuing to hand-make each one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not been able to find a manufacturer willing to retool
> > so
> > > as
> > > > > implement the new closure.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has any ideas on how best to proceed at this point,
> I
> > > would
> > > > > be grateful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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