did not go further at that time....maybe you were being protected.
I wanted to share this little story with you...recently I saw a patent
that was done for a friend of a friend...through a company that
advertises on TV..They convinced this poor lady she was
going to make millions and this was the best
design they had ever seen.
After sitting with the Patent and design which was beautifully
presented to her in an expensive cover...she called me to see
if I could help her with the manufacture overseas.
It took less then 5 Min's to find a similar product on the market.
I still wanted to help her..and I made a few calls to some key retail people
who all said the same thing..."this is not going to sell and it will tank"..
The patent company hook you at the beginning with a small fee
and then before you can blink it ends up costing you many
thousands more..
...
Now you do have some wonderful companies with integrity that
do great work however it's important to keep looking for them and
asking for recommendations until you really find a good one.
God's Blessings to everyone and to great success, Karmen
Dan Moody <danmoody01@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a company in Pittsburgh PA - forget the name- that does patent
searches and
actually builds a replica and package of you product then markets it to a
manufacuerer
I spent 800 bucks on a patent search and they were already to take it to the
next level
They were very excited but I had to come up with 12 grand to continue with
the process
Would not have been a bad price but I couldnt come up with the money. That
was a while ago
Best wishes,
Dan Moody
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Patrick <datafoxx@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Very sound thinking, I think. :-) I keep forgeting about trade
> shows. I should do one of them one day.
>
> Do you have anything to say, Karmen, on repurposing? Its one of my
> hobby interests and I'd love to read your insight someday.
>
> In the meantime, I'd like to borrow a friend's sign-off and say;
> Wishing you a spicy life and riches, everyone.
>
> Patrick Lalande
> www.bucketsoffood.com
>
> --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Karmen Spencer-
> Stanovich <KARMEN@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick, Yes it is great having this forum...and sharing as I
> still learn so
> > much from everyone even after being in business for a long time..
> > you are never too old to learn...:).
> >
> > When people have spent much of their time in developing a new
> product
> > all they want to do is to protect their baby.They run and spend
> > thousands of dollars with a patent attorney...
> >
> > Of course it all depends what product they want to protect...it
> has to be such
> > a unique product. If a fight should develop ..yes, an attorney
> will handle the case
> > for you, but at a high price and the billing starts ticking
> away...each month...
> >
> > The billing to prepare for a court case is astronomical...it can
> run quickly
> > from many thousands per month to 6 figures...Most people do not
> have that
> > sort of money to burn and end up backing out.
> >
> > I have seen first hand what can take place.and I have mentioned
> it here before
> > that realistically someone can alter a part of your patent and
> you do not have a
> > leg to stand on to fight the case..you can fight but that
> > doesn't mean you will win...
> >
> > It's a big win-win for the attorney of course. as they will want
> you to fight...and
> > yes you are paying for it..with little return...
> >
> > I deal with all major retail chains and I do not know of one
> personally
> > that will take your idea and pay you for it...and get it made for
> you that
> > doesn't happen...
> >
> > Major buyers are under such pressure and under the gun and have
> very little
> > time on their hands..Have you seen right now all the stores have
> major
> > sales as things are not moving...Life has changed big time in
> business
> > over the last 2 years...
> >
> > My advice is to start small build your foundation first...build
> your brand name...
> > and become a hero locally first...then venture to bigger pastures
> only after
> > you have successfully built a strong foundation and that takes
> time...
> > Everyone starting out wants to hit a home run each time they are
> up to bat....
> >
> > A buyer does not even want to waste their time if you are coming
> in with
> > one small item show them...and that is why they see
> distributors...as
> > they will come in and show them a number of products...and that
> way it is more productive,...for them..
> >
> > Perhaps trying to go and find a distributor may be a better way
> to go for
> > anyone who wants to expands their lines...
> >
> > On the Pet line...they have the big Pet Trade shows a few times
> per year and
> > you get buyers there from all over the US that come to buy...
> > Blessings, Karmen.
> > Patrick <datafoxx@...> wrote:
> > Hy Karmen,
> >
> > Its so nice to have intelligent discourse in an open forum. I
> > believe you made my point. Patents are all they're cracked up to
> > be. Getting the product out into the market first is even more
> > important. Some companies will even be willing to license a product
> > without a patent just to lock up being first to the market with it.
> I
> > never suggested that a patent be consumated, only a provisional
> > patent to provide some idea protection for a limited time (one
> > year). It gives them enough time to figure out how to market it.
> >
> > If I'm reading you right, you sound like you're in the positon to
> > analyze and advise. Although, I won't totally admit defeat and
> > concede the point, I think that all methods should be considered,
> > perhaps you have another solution that they may consider.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Patrick Lalande
> > www.bucketsoffood.com
> >
> > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Karmen Spencer-
> Stanovich
> > <KARMEN@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Patrick, you have very good suggestions, however I do not
> think
> > it will work
> > > the way you are saying it here...having been in manufacturing for
> > 20 years.....
> > > In fact I know it would not work and it can become expensive....
> > > also it depends on the product..if it is worth taking out
> > expensive patents..
> > >
> > > I have seen people dish out thousands of dollars on patents only
> > to
> > > find themselves attending a Trade Show and having almost the
> > same
> > > identical products on display..a few booth away...
> > >
> > > I have designed many products and all have been home runs..
> > > Because once the designs are done I am always thinking of the
> > next big one.
> > > Right now in Target they are selling a few products that I had
> > designed and sold to
> > > another large chain of stores last year..
> > >
> > > The company that copied my designs and sold it to Target have a
> > strong bond there...
> > > When others copy you it is a form of flattery and in fashions
> > things change all the time...
> > >
> > > All they need to do is change a certain amount in a design
> > which is easy
> > > to do for some people...I decided a long time ago that I wanted
> > my time and
> > > focus to go on positive things...and what I designed yesterday
> > > I have already moved today to the next new design......
> > >
> > > Yesterday is over and done with..Karmen
> > >
> > > Patrick <datafoxx@> wrote:
> > > I might suggest that you take a different tack. What if
> > you pt a
> > > sales letter ( a one page printed copy with your USP "Unique
> > Selling
> > > Propositon", a one line elevator pitch on it and then add 3-5
> > > features (the is) and benefits (the does) and take that to the
> > > players in that field. You'd probably have to do that face to
> face
> > > but the sales letter would get your foot in the door.
> > >
> > > If anyone is interested then they'll pay for the manufaturing and
> > > you'd just collect on the license.
> > >
> > > The only thing you'd need from a manufacturer is a price to
> > > manufacture and they'd already be able to price it...
> > >
> > > Just a quick review. License not sell. Maybe get the help of a
> > > product developer (someone other than the inventor) to market the
> > > license.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Patrick Lalande
> > > www.bucketsoffood.com
> > >
> > > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Kurt Schweitzer"
> > > <kurt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is the patent number, and in what country is it patented?
> > > >
> > > > I have worked with a patent broker who matches patent holders
> with
> > > > companies interested in licensing patents. I may be able to
> > connect
> > > > you, but I need to know the patent information first.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Schweitzer
> > > > Urban Village Scooters
> > > > http://urbanvillagescooters.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In entrepreneursathome@yahoogroups.com<entrepreneursathome%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "tender2dtouch"
> > > > <tender2dtouch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been seeking to have my patented product manufactured.
> It
> > > is a
> > > > > reusable plastic storage bag with an entirely novel closure
> > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Presently, I have been making these bags on my own with a
> heat
> > > sealer,
> > > > > and they are fully functional.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since the product will be sold for a relatively low price, I
> > > cannot see
> > > > > the feasibility of continuing to hand-make each one.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not been able to find a manufacturer willing to retool
> > so
> > > as
> > > > > implement the new closure.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has any ideas on how best to proceed at this point,
> I
> > > would
> > > > > be grateful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for your time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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